Justin Shell @JShell085
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I'm hesitating to shut down Parlay. I've tried almost everything to keep it alive except tweet about it, so here it goes... Every year, 100k students participate in class discussions on our platform. These are actual back and forth conversations between all students, not just the confident, extroverted ones. There is no obvious replacement for the class discussion experience we've created. With AI changing the way we think about learning, the case for discussion-based learning is even stronger than it was when we first started 9 years ago. (Discussion-based learning is a moat against AI generated work). Cumulatively, Parlay has hosted: - 200K class discussions in written and verbal formats - over 7M written ideas contributed - over 3M live speaking turns I'm radically open to paths to keep this going. If you think of an acquirer, strategic partner, or someone who can help carry this forward please DM/share. Thank you.💙
My main issue with doing so is that those seeds of knowledge, unless cultivated, shrivel up and die, meaning it violates my rule #1: Don't waste kids' time. But I never considered, until this post, that it actually might be even worse than that. ref: substack.com/@carlhendrick/…
"Participants who had spent a short time with the material were more certain of their (often wrong) answers than people who had never seen it at all." -@C_Hendrick One of my main criticisms of conventional schooling is that too many subjects lightly seed too much information.
@turing_hamster That said, it’s still a valuable debate because school is better equipped to provide some structures than the world outside school, and sequence often matters, but receives little/no attention. This article by @greg_ashman here is one such example:
@turing_hamster Lots of binary education debates should be answered as ‘both.’ When the binary choices have different goals, both ultimately valuable, educators still must argue due to scarce time. The rhetoric says ‘this or that’ but it’s really ‘what % of time should we allocate to each.’
@greg_ashman @daisychristo @dylanwiliam I’d be curious if there was any research into whether or not any of the feedback was even looked at by most students. I’m not familiar with any large scale, systematic ways of incentivizing students to read, much less act on, the feedback.
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Was just thinking this as I sifted through mail today. 10 pieces of mail. 1 of mild significance.
It is time for the United States Postal Service to ban junk mail. Unsolicited spam calls are already prohibited by the FCC. Emails are heavily regulated by the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003. Junk mail is the majority of mail, 100 million trees per year. Enough!
@helenrey Yes indeed. A problem never to be fully resolved. Once there is agreement on what to learn, there needs to be a way to measure if that’s been learned or not, but then even past that you have to know the depth to which that concept is understood. It’s not easy an easy problem.
Call me crazy, but I don't actually agree. I can learn from a book and have no relationship with it. I don't have a relationship (much less a significant one) with those I follow on Twitter, but I learn a lot from them. Relationships are important, but for a diff reason.
@helenrey Coming up with equations to better model “learning” has been an interest/hobby of mine for a while, but frankly I don’t think I’m any good at theoretical mathematics. In my view that would greatly help educators focus on what factors they can have the greatest effect on.
@helenrey Attention is downstream of many contributing factors, but it attention that is the direct, causal mechanism for learning. You could say that’s a “relationship” with the material, but that seems to incorrectly lead to social constructivism that I think is flawed.
@helenrey No, I just want to point out that this isn’t a universal truth. Relationships strongly influence desire to pay attention and THAT influences the direction of attention and therefore the learning resulting from it. But that’s just one of several reasons to focus attention.
Me every time I hear that learning is a social endeavor…
A strange thing is going on right now: Both cognitive science traditionalists and constructivist progressives now seem to be both arguing for learning as primarily a social enterprise. For example, I don't know who Dan Meyer is but I gather he has largely progressive views and
@C_Hendrick @mbateman I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.
And the cliche, "learning is an intrinsically social process" - can anyone explain that to me? Learning is something that happens to an individual, often aided by those around us. But the two things are separate. Please help me understand if you disagree.
@adamboxer1 Boring. Repetitive. Systematic. Perhaps a niche for AI/software in education? Time for a follow up with @mrbartonmaths ?
@AtlasLiteracy My 7 year old successfully answered it. When I asked him how he knew he was surprised. “Dad, he just said it. It’s so easy.” So yeah. I wish I knew “why” they would include something like that.
@jliemandt It’s surprising how differently we treat sports vs academics. Direct instruction, the need for fluency and automaticity, the importance of testing one’s skills and using feedback to improve… It’s all just more intuitive in the sports world.
@adamboxer1 In politics it’s flip flopping. For everyone else it’s called learning.
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