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@jk7026 I am not finding great information on that development deal, but it appears the development is negotiating a TIF deal. The Bears essentially wanted something similar to a TIF but the Senate version creating a sales tax capture to pay for the development is a step way further.
Well, these are not the only tax implications. It hurts Illinois to pay for an AH development with sales tax. Billions. And that won’t be made up for with anything that comes in. It costs taxpayers much more to subsidize the stadium to stay in IL.
@danwiederer Which hurts taxpayers more?: A) Letting the Bears pay $30 million a year in taxes (the largest tax bill for any professional sports team) or B) Letting them go and they pay $0 a year. How does it help the taxpayer at all to let the Bears walk?
@jk7026 This is a private developer with residential units paid for with public sales tax. It will be far more costly than any other developer because no other developer would get that kind of deal.
This ignores it is an entire subsidized development, not just a stadium (as Bears would have you believe to create numbers like this). $250M annual outside stadium revenue in AH. Stadiums have been studied by actual economists for decades and “The return is real” is not true.
Chicago lost the Bears this week. A team that's been in the city since 1921. They didn't lose them to a bigger market or a better deal. The Bears decided they'd rather be a tenant in Indiana than deal with Illinois for one more year. Think about how badly you have to run a
100% inaccurate. What actually happened is that the Bears look at this as a complete project, not just a stadium. And the Bears are not paying for the bulk of it. Read the details of the deal and it is readily apparent. It is not just new money.
@JonStyf This is so disingenuous. They’re not asking for public funding to build a stadium in Arlington. Asking for a $15M/yr property tax bill (highest in professional sports) is not the same as subsidizing a stadium. Bottom line: It’s been 5 yrs, and Illinois has no offer on the table.
On a beautiful summer weekend such as this, imagine taking a train or whatever mode of transportation to hang out in the new development in Hammond, Indiana. This is an issue the Bears are most definitely aware of as they “move forward”
I know the Bears are moving forward with an Indiana site. And I know they've struck out for public funding from Illinois...so far. But hard to believe this is over. Now they have a legitimate leverage play; we'll see where it goes. Socialize cost; privatize profit.
Again, the Bears calling ahead to say this isn’t a final decision and adding all these caveats speaks for itself.
Why would the Bears or anyone with the NFL admit it is a leverage play, if it is?
While I’m being told that the Bears announcement on Hammond is “real”, i.e. not a leverage play, a league source told me that the Bears leaving the state is not a done deal. Per source, Indiana is in the lead right now, but “Illinois can still get back in the race,” granted the
Think of this stadium situation as a Dunkin’ race, folks. Another attention-grabbing lead change. For sure. But the finish line isn’t even on the scoreboard yet.
There have been a lot of statements in this process. We will see how much this one is worth.
The UW System 2% tuition increase passed with a 15-1 vote. Nixon was the lone "no" vote.
This came right after Regent Timothy Nixon said that he wouldn't support the 2% increase for the fall. "We must be confident we have explored all options before putting it on the backs of the students."
Jill Underly currently blaming state funding for the UW System raising tuition for the 5th straight year during the Board of Regents meeting.
I talked about this yesterday. Can’t get it out of my head. The prediction market licensing and taxation framework the State put in their revenue bill will produce nothing for the State. Nothing. I can’t decide if this was stupidity on the part of the State or intentional.
How about that. The opposition didn't make sense. This does.
REVISED: Arlington Heights' Mayor Jim Tinaglia isn't opposed to the Senate Bears Bill, rather angry that nothing passed the full General Assembly. My mistake -- here is his full statement: "The Village of Arlington Heights has spent the past five years working diligently to
@BDR374 I am not compelled by your thorough argument.
I disagree entirely that the financial math for the team is "unquestionably better in Indiana." In fact, it isn't close. Being able to pay for a development in AH with sales tax (same as the state paying for it through general revenue, BTW) and Bears keeping all revenue is huge.
The conversation continues on the Bears stadium/megaproject bills.
While we had hoped to get this done before adjournment, it became clear when HB958 was filed in the early morning hours that the votes simply weren't there. That's nobody's fault. It's just the reality of trying to move something of this size, complexity, and consequence in the
@stevebrubaker Right. The House didn't vote on it. I don't believe this means it's over though. If they wanted to go to Indiana, they would have already announced they are going to Indiana.
Again, the development beyond a stadium in Arlington Heights is such a big part of the Bears' plan there. This is what they believe they will bring in more than is currently brought in by Soldier Field.
The Bears claimed last July that these were the numbers over 40 years, w/ $2B in net new revenue "beyond activity at Soldier Field"
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