SoccerPhotogrammetry, A Nice Gentleman & nerd @OffsideModeling

Using 2D photos to create a 3D model which can settle the question Was he offside? Joined August 2015

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a year ago

@messifan21 I promise I cannot do better than the system they have in place.

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a year ago

@yung_turrtle @IaqDiesel @benwright I don't doubt it likely went in, just that it isn't terribly definitive. Chances are it was a goal, but surely difficult for AR to see live and not clear enough for VAR

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a year ago

@yung_turrtle @IaqDiesel @benwright I use multiple angles so I can get an intersection in 3D to determine the position. I wanted to use the behind-the-goal angle but unfortunately the distortion on that image is so severe it limits its usefulness in these scenarios.

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a year ago

@RikWillThom @NashvilleSC Will try to get to it, need to cook dinner now though 😁

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a year ago

That @NashvilleSC goal line situation? I have it as 3/8" inside the goal. Given the difficulties of the model and esp. goal-line situations, I can't be sure that it was or was not a goal.

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a year ago

@_wwawalwalkwalk @andrew_wiebe Will try to get to it soon. Need to cook dinner now 😁

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a year ago

Hey all, I know I've been absent, and I know that @andrew_wiebe keeps sub tweeting me from #InstantReplay, but I'm back. I am now also on Bluesky (@OffsideModeling.bsky.social) So what do you want me to look at? And apologies for disappearing like that.

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a year ago

The first @PhilaUnion goal against @ColumbusCrew back on May 10, from the free kick? I have it as 8 inches offside. Honestly, a _lot_ closer than I expected. Still feel like VAR could have intervened but this info makes it look less obvious than I originally thought.

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a year ago

The @ATLUTD goal against @AustinFC back from almost a month ago? Sorry for the delay, but it looks like it was onside. Only by 3" by the model, but no reason to think it wasn't onside from this

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a year ago

The offside in El Traffico? That took @LAGalaxy's Gabriel Pec's goal off the board? I have it as 9-10 inches offside. That's with a relatively conservative guess on position of the 2LD, so could be more.

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a year ago

@Grant_Aleman @andrew_wiebe Yeah, I'm on this one. Unfortunately it is going to take a bit of effort, goal line situations are the most difficult.

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a year ago

@andrew_wiebe Did you mean to use the "Obi WINE" version?

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a year ago

OK, so that St. Louis goal against Columbus called back? I have it as 6 inches onside. I will say that it's harder than it looks b/c 2LD here has his foot off the ground so it isn't as easy as just following the lines in the grass.

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2 years ago

@MLSRefStats Just tell everyone it was wrong due to camera distortion and update the values, always works for me.

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2 years ago

@nickrodriguez_I I haven't, can look into it

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2 years ago

@DanielCluley @JohnRawlinsOCSC If I've learned anything in my soccer fandom it is this: Never listen to commentators for accurate interpretation of the laws, and never rely on the freeze frame they use when showing offside calls.

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2 years ago

@MattRTrading @MLS @OrlandoCitySC @CharlotteFC Hands don't count because they cannot play the ball.

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2 years ago

Was Agyemang onside in the @MLS playoff game between @OrlandoCitySC and @CharlotteFC? I have him offside by about 3 feet.

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2 years ago

@Terry__Terrific @MLS @OrlandoCitySC @CharlotteFC It is very difficult to evaluate because they don't show a second line parallel to the goal line (only show the midline). Still, the center circle lines up so nicely that I would be surprised if the error would end up with him onside.