Lazyeyes @ProofOfPath
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I understand perfectly well. The claim that 500,000 Arabs immigrated to pre-state Israel in the decades immediately prior to its founding is a widely debunked historical myth which you are repeating. While there was some economic migration within the Ottoman Empire and later under the British Mandate (including smaller groups like Bosnians or Circassians), mainstream demographic historians, including leading Israeli demographers like Sergio Della Pergola and Roberto Bachi, have exhaustively analyzed census data from this era. They overwhelmingly agree that the massive growth in the Arab population during the late 19th and early 20th centuries was driven by natural increase, not mass immigration. Improvements in modern medicine and sanitation introduced during that time led to plummeting infant mortality rates while birth rates remained very high. The vast majority of the Arab population living in pre-state Israel did not arrive from elsewhere a few decades prior; they were the descendants of people who had lived on that land for centuries. Palestinian culture is not a generic, imported "Arab" monoculture; it is heavily shaped by the specific geography of the Levant. Their distinct dialects, folklore, and multi-generational agricultural practices (such as centuries-old olive harvesting traditions) are inextricably tied to that specific land. The Palestinian people have deep, legitimate, and indigenous roots in the region. That is not up for debate. Whether European jews can be called indigenous is a controversial topic and a well versed academic debate, there is no point us hashing out both sides of the argument here. The people who immigrated were not all ethnically European jews. Tracing genetic roots back two millennia does not legitimize superseding the rights and wishes of a region's continuous indigenous population. The establishment of a new state via mass displacement was forced upon the region, relying fundamentally on the external leverage of the British Mandate and the United Nations. Muslims lived peacefully alongside Jews in the region, who they shared their DNA with. Religion was not the problem. DNA was not the problem. Entitled immigrants deliberately displacing people to colonise the region was the problem. There is no world in which doing this wouldn't lead us exactly to where we are today: persistent conflict and suffering.
Good questions - they talk about those points - Reported vs 2/10,000 threshold "Numbers of deaths directly attributable to malnutrition are under-reported by orders of magnitude". This is true of famines in all areas, but particularly in Gaza, where you can't count the living due to mass displacement. You can't count the dead: hospitals destroyed, people buried under rubble, people dying at home, deaths where starving died to bombs, bullets, illness. Relative deaths A population like Gaza can experience a 1,000% spike in preventable starvation deaths, shattering the community and killing thousands. But if that massive spike only reaches 1.8 deaths per 10,000, the rigid IPC model dictates that it isn't officially a famine yet. The fixed baseline hides the true scale and speed of the shock to the population. There are more factors too, but this will turn into an essay. I understand why you hear "500 deaths to starvation" and conclude that means there was only 500 deaths and no mass starvation, but a closer look at the data shows that there absolutely was. The IPC who classified it as a famine were well aware of the 500 recorded deaths. If they could have just relied on that figure, they wouldn't have bothered doing all that work.
@NiohBerg It's illegally smuggled hair But that doesn't mean it was "harvested from murdered Iranian women" You're literally just making stuff up
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BREAKING: Trump says his birthday wish is "world peace"
@RLHeinrichs The sheer arrogance. Trump is unstable. Well, we'll see I guess.
He said I'm wrong then blocked me lol @Grok fact check my last post; "I mean the DNA is pretty conclusive. The entire region didn't switch from Jewish to Muslim overnight to "betray their people" - They adopted the culture, the language, the religion over centuries, as they had the right to do. They didn't steal the land. Muslims didn't expel them either. Muslim rule turned Palestine into a refuge for Jews. It was the Christians who persecuted and expelled them."
I mean the DNA is pretty conclusive. The entire region didn't switch from Jewish to Muslim overnight to "betray their people" - They adopted the culture, the language, the religion over centuries, as they had the right to do. They didn't steal the land. Muslims didn't expel them either. Muslim rule turned Palestine into a refuge for Jews. It was the Christians who persecuted and expelled them.
No the ones that the Romans expelled were the trouble makers and poor families Violent tendencies, from the bad parts of town. They would carry a knife and stab romans in crowds, then run away. Terrorists, you could call them. It's not hard to put spin on this shit. You're not clever.
@Peter1029928 @KosherChutzpah Unfortunately for you, DNA shows that the Palestinians have more of the ancient Levant and Canaan DNA of the region than Ashkenazi Jews do. The Palestinians didn't migrate there. They ARE the indigenous people.
@SSSOCACO @Polymarket We can just let Elizabeth Warren manage it for a 5% fee or something, she's a good investor too
@SSSOCACO @Polymarket Trump can be like everybody's financial advisor He's a billioneer. Sounds good to me.
@BluAngelMerri @RedCollectiveUK Breaking The Silence Testimony from hundreds of Israeli soldiers, confessing that murder is institutional. breakingthesilence.org.il
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@Adumi2022 @Moose83166 @mark_slapinski And if you have to explain why you're not Islamophobic, you're probably Islamophobic.
@Adumi2022 @Moose83166 @mark_slapinski Meeting Muslims doesn't make an Islamophobe not racist. I don't like terrorists. I don't like slaughtered people- Jewish or not. Your words have told us all we need to know about you.
@SSSOCACO @Polymarket What if the public service is buying companies
You're right on the estimates, but the conclusion is incorrect. From: worldpeacefoundation.org/blog/how-many-… The main reason: Deaths directly attributed to famine are a small fraction of deaths actually caused by famine, which are always orders of magnitude higher. Noteworthy fact: The IPC phase levels were designed around rural African villages with much higher baseline deaths. Gaza had lower baseline deaths, so they had to rise by much higher multiples to reach phase5. So the change in Gaza has been a much bigger one than when famines typically happen in Africa. Deaths due to food insecurity had to 10x to reach phase5 in Sudan. They had to 20x to reach phase5 in Gaza.
The IPC are a network of 21 organizations who's mandate is to monitor famine worldwide. They determined that there was a Phase5 (famine) in one governate of Gaza (inc Gaza city) where 500k people stayed, which they projected to spread to 2 more governates by December. They did not have enough data on the northern region, but it would be rational to think the situation was even worse there. In December there was a reduction in conflict, which saw the Gaza governate reduced to phase4 (emergency) ipcinfo.org/ipc-country-an…
No, your replies are disingenuous deflections from the real issue: Israel thinks it's on a holy mission to destroy a modern day Amalek. "Why don't the victims just run away?" They have, many times. Refugee camp to refugee camp, and Israel bombs the refugee camps. "Why don't they run faster and further?" Your "final solution" is for them all to leave. You're worse than stupid or dishonest. You're disgusting.
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