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@PolPot114514_ China’s caution isn’t socialist; it’s developmentalist. Every capitalist state in history has said "we must finish national construction first." It’s a bourgeois argument, not Marxism
Let's talk about China's "non-interventionism." China intervenes when its capital is threatened. Examples: military base in Djibouti, pressure on Pakistan to protect CPEC, backing multiple factions in Myanmar to secure pipelines, militarizing the South China Sea to control trade
China did not use its veto because the issue does not affect its national interest directly, like say a resolution on Taiwan would, which China would've prevented even from being tabled, let alone vetoed it. China is fundamentally not an interventionist country, and does not
@Valentefdz Oh no you follow me??? LOOL
These MLs descended into the most pitiful kind of liberal campist cope when I pointed out Madeline Pendleton was one of theirs xD
@RedFrontTweeter @tovarischrex AES is ONLY an ML position. No other Marxist believes in AES. Madeline is an explicit anti-imperialist and there is no such thing as a "liberal world-systems theory." She supports what she considers periphery states against core imperialism. You're just making up nonsense.
Isn't she a Marxist-Leninist???🙃 She has the political understanding of a rock.
The nationalists found me lol they’re going innnn
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@tovarischrex I don't keep anyone from calling themselves what they want. I explain why they aren't what they say they are. You have yet to actually explain why the positions she holds are inconsistent with the positions most MLs hold, such as AES, anti-imperialism, world-systems theory, etc.
@tovarischrex You can't even materially define scientific socialism. You're the exact same kind of confused Hegelian she is.
@tovarischrex different organizing principles of production. If you can’t define the socialist MOP without using Hegelian abstractions like "socialised" or "collectivised," then you’re a Hegelian same as her
@tovarischrex Socialised/collectivised MOP’ is not a materialist definition of a mode of production. That’s just a moral description of what you want it to be. A material distinction requires: different property relations, different relations of labor, different forms of surplus extraction,
@tovarischrex Bad faith? You apply an arbitrary purity test bc you hate the idea some bourgeois mouthpiece could be associated with your tendency, but everything you've written is just a cope.
@tovarischrex You don't even know the difference between the capitalist and socialist modes of production. You're a Hegelian. Same as her.
@tovarischrex – national sovereignty politics That’s the core of modern ML praxis. Ironically you're being campist yourself.
@tovarischrex You’re not giving a material argument, you’re just listing which sub-sect of ML dogma you personally prefer. Madeline supports: – AES – China as socialist – campist "anti-imperialism" – world-systems rhetoric – party-led development – state-led industrialization
@tovarischrex I’m not going by what any group calls itself. I’m going by the material positions they defend. If supporting state capitalism disqualifies someone from being an ML, then Stalin wasn’t an ML either 🙃
@tovarischrex I don't keep anyone from calling themselves what they want. I explain why they aren't what they say they are. You have yet to actually explain why the positions she holds are inconsistent with the positions most MLs hold, such as AES, anti-imperialism, world-systems theory, etc.
@ymrehh • DPRK: explicit nationalist ideology (Juche). • Vietnam/Cuba: national development, national accumulation, national industry.
@ymrehh It’s literally the empirical record of every ML state: • USSR: national developmentalism, national security doctrine, nationalized capital accumulation. • PRC: national capital, national bourgeoisie, national markets, national industrial policy.
@ymrehh national capital. Material reality > ideological self-description
@ymrehh This is like when fascists say they’re "anti-capitalist." Sure, ideologically. In praxis they strengthen capitalism. Same with MLs: you can say "proletarian internationalism," but the historical praxis of every ML state has been nationalism, state-building, and defending
@rakdos_cackler @tovarischrex What is scientific socialism materialy?
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